This article is one of those rare articles, in which Lady Lydia has permitted rude comments. Many a time this article gets deleted, but still if you search you might get it. Meanwhile, thecurrent link to this article is here.
Earlier, this article was on the side-bar, but I guess it was attracting more negative comments so it has once more been relegated to obscurity. (Actually her comments, her humour and spirit in attack are quite amusing)
Dissenting views:
I decided to collect "dissenting views" (which are often rude comments) here and keep it on one post. Readers are welcome to give a ready answer for the reason of the hope that is in you, regarding the role of wife, mother and homemaker! Just remember not to slip into the same kinds of insults as the dissenters dish out.
Christian Feminist says:
Your views on public education are profoundly disturbing. i read one of your article on LAF where you seem to think that public schools and universities are part of a huge conspiracy destined to brainwash people.
I really don't understand how anyone can compare homeschooling with public education. After all, mothers cannot be trained in every single subject, from maths to biology, in order to be able to properly educate their children.
In schools, we have teachers who are specialists in their own field. And what has religion to do with public schools?
Your faith must be really weak if you are afraid it can be destroyed by going to school. A true Christian will never change his opinions concerning creation and God, no matter what he is taught in biology or philosophy. I didn't loose anything by going to school, college and university in fact I gained insight and an amount of knowledge no homeschooling could provide.
I can accept the fact that not all women were oppressed in the past ( not because the laws were in their favour, but because some were lucky enough to have good husbands or to live in an enlightened society ).
You, on the other hand, are unable to accept proven facts, i.e the historical lack of rights for women in the past. Everything was so rosy back then in your view... That's because you obviously only read books that fit in with your view.
And yes, in the past most people were home educated, but by tutors...which is very different. There was no broad access to education. This brings me to another topic you never adressed: your obvious double standard for men and women.
Men can go to college, they will not be corrupted. Men can go to work in the big bad world, they will be safe. Women can't. Men can have a career and be husbands and fathers, women can't. and yet, you're proven wrong daily by millions of women who have good jobs and happy families.
If they stayed home and wasted their God-given talents, how many great doctors, teachers, managers, politician, the world would have lost! how many good things would have been left undone! have you ever read about Elizabeth I? the greatest monarch England ever had, a woman who never married!
I don't accept your view that I shouldn't marry if I have a career. I love children and I will have thwm without becoming a housewife.
It would be a waste of my intelligence and talents. Being a good mother and a good wife has nothing to do with staying at home.
Lady Lydia says:
Miss Romania,
I allowed this comment to be published, not because it was so brilliant, but because it was so full of ignorant assumptions. I don't suppose your education was "nuetral" was it? It is because of your education that you are so full of contradictions about education, about men, about homemaking, about life. It had a greater impact on you than you know.
You obviously know knowing about basic education. How in the world would you go about proving that before public education existed, those who could read, write, do math and biology,only learned by hired tutors? It is simply untrue. And why does it matter? AFter all, it was in the past and as you said, we shouldn't live in the past. I know a lot of homeschool parents and they adequately taught their children the subjects you seem to belief can only be taught by experts. As for your statement that you don't know how anyone can compare public school with homeschool, so what? If parents want to homeschool, it is their own business. It doesn't mean they are "comparing", it just means they to take full responsibility for their children. If you really want to compare, you need to visit with some people who are homeschooling, and there are millions of them so it should be easy to find them online. I home educated my own, and there was no lack of resources for biology or math. If you are so smart, tell me, please, what the definition of science is, and how you would determine a true scientific fact from a false one? What is the "scientific theory?" and are there any flaws in it? If so, what are they? Is science based on observation, experiement, supposition, or presumption? And as for math, what is the basic difference between arithmetic and math? If no one could read or write before there was "broad access" to education, how in the world were great cities built, historical records kept, commerce done, or the Bible read...you assume there was just an elitist group that was educated but the majority were not... it is a fantasy land you live in where the past was a pitiful era, lost without public education.
As for your remark about having children but not wanting to waste your talents by raising them at home full time yourself, I suppose then you would still pay someone else to do it and tell them their job was low and demeaning and that they themselves were being paid to do something that was beneath you?
God created women fully capable of training up their own children, and they have done it since the beginning of time. Just because public education came on the scene a hundred years ago does not suddenly make women unable to teach their own children, raise their own children, nurture their own children.
You need to read "Keeper of the Springs" by Peter Marshall. What he said, was true. When women begin leaving their children to pursue careers, the waters of society are thus polluted, with offspring that care nothing for the home, the family, and the values of their forefathers.
Now I will tell you why learning to read is not something we need to leave up to "experts." There are 26 letters of the alphabet, in English, representing 44 sounds. With these letters and sounds and combinations of sounds, anyone can teach reading. In fact, in the 1950's, Mexico had a high rate of illiteracy, and the government made a policy for "each one to teach one". The "each one teach one" policy wiped out the problem, because CHILDREN were teaching other children. When a child learned to read, he was supposed to teach a younger child. So if it required experts, and public schools, how in the world did these older children teach the younger children to read? All you need to know is the combinations of sounds and letters, and people pick it up fast. Look at our pioneers who had basically the Bible to use as a school book. One of our early presidents, John Adams, said that in the 1800's (before public education) that American families were doing so well in teaching their children to read and write, that an uneducated person could hardly be found.
Let me ask you, regarding the study of language,what are the "elementary sounds?" in a given language? What is the difference between a vocal, a sub-vocal, and an aspirate? What are the instructions for articulation? What are "marks of ellipsis?"
In history, who wrote the following statement?
“Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded an empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him.”
Please continue to go through the archives and the links and keep reading. There are 500 articles here, and there are many good comments, as well as links.
Becky says:
If the feminist in Romania would read this
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=67396
it explains more about what the public schools are doing.
And this http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?DEPARTMENT_ID=6&SUBDEPARTMENT_ID=23&ITEM_ID=2306
Lady Lydia says:
Miss Romania,
You said: "I love children and I will have thwm without becoming a housewife.
It would be a waste of my intelligence and talents. Being a good mother and a good wife has nothing to do with staying at home"
You would have a hard time proving that the care and teaching of your own children at home, and the care of the home is a waste of intelligence and talents. It actually requires more intelligence and talent than any other job, if it is done well.
You said After all, mothers cannot be trained in every single subject, from maths to biology, in order to be able to properly educate their children. "
Once again, you would have very great difficulty actually proving that mothers cannot educate their children properly. Life itself disproves your theory, as there are now hundreds of home school graduates who are better educated than their public school counterparts, and doing well in life. I educated my own children at home, and had no difficulty with these subjects, for which there is plenty of knowledge and resources, available, and easily accessible. In actual fact, it is not the educator who does the work, it is the student. Once the student is given the love of learning by his mother, he can learn anything on his own, even without a tutor. All he has to know is how to read and write and have what we call "a learner's heart." This is something that is required in the home, and in marriage, and in raising children. Women need to have a learner's heart, coupled with a strong desire to serve others and to sacrifice their own desires for the well being of others. Women that are home are the most unselfish of people. They are not motivated to do well because of money, but because of duty towards God and towards their loved ones. Like one of the commenters said, it is a sad time we live in when nothing is valued unless it has money attached to it. Probably if a college education and a job didnt pay, but were voluntary, and homemaking paid, there would be a lot more homemakers. I doubt very much that women would work outside the home if there was no money involved.
Anonymous says:
The more time you spend in institutional living, including public schools (or even private, religious schools) the more you are influenced by them and the more you take on the beliefs of those systems. You yourself, reflect, in your comments, a bias, which you learned somehow, and it did not come out of thin air. You may claim all your beliefs came from inside your own head, and for sure, some of them did, for foolishness is certainly "bound up" in the heart of a child, as the Proverbs say, but, a lot of your comments truly reflect what your education has taught you. You might have thought you went only to read and write, or attended school just to get educated, but you came away with a lot of beliefs, reflected in the posts you put here, that were subtly indoctrinated into you. If this were not so, why then, do those who believe in the Bible, live a different way and believe a different way and speak such different values? Because your camp believed one way, and the other camp believed another way. Everyone is going to be taught at an early age what to believe, therefore, it is up to parents to choose which way they will be taught. After all, children's adult beliefs and lifestyles are so often based upon their early training. Therefore, why shouldn't parents want their children educated in Christian principles rather than those of the state? Why shouldn't they want to protect their children at a young age? You are obviously greatly influenced by other mocking feminists from blogs which shall not be named here, as your words pen some of the very phrases found on those blogs.
I stay home and look after the farm while my husband works. I guess I must be "lazy and not very gifted." Why don't you come and laze around with me while I take care of the house, the animals, the garden, teach my children their school lessons, sew dresses for myself and teach my daughters to do the same,etc. Why don't you come and spend a week here and then go home and see if you can honestly say I am lazy and not very gifted. I guess you went to university to learn that. It figures. The feminist teaching there has gone unchallenged for too long.
regarding the schools indoctrinating children with socialist beliefs, it is not so strange. It is actually true.
Go here to read more http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/wallstreets_utopian_hoax-communism.htm
You think communism/marxism is not connectd to feminism. Look here
http://www.savethemales.ca/031001.html
Jean says:
You're an ignorant, uneducated, racist woman, "Lady" Lydia. There is nothing ladylike, feminine or womanly about you. You can play dress up and throw tea-parties until the cows come home, my dear, but that doesn't make you a true lady or a true Christian. It makes you a silly, sad, mentally disturbed old lady.
BTW, all those ridiculously silly rags you link to employ many working women on a regular basis. Their advertisers, which is where they make their real money, also employ many working women. Working single women. Working single lesbian women. Working single heterosexual women who enjoy having one night stands. Actually, pretty much every kind of woman you're totally against and believe is going straight to hell in a handbasket.
I guess the pretty pictures of tea cups and doilies and embroidered aprons mean more to you than your supposed convictions about working women.
Guess we can all see what your real God is...
Lady Lydia says:
Jean in Jersey City:
Your comments give your city a bad name. You need to study and read a little more before you spout off something like this. If I were at an airport, waiting in line, would you walk up to me and say all this to my face? Hiding behind a screen makes it easy to be bold with such rash statements. Let me approach each of your subjects separately:
Lesbians: Several of these women have come into our lives through their hostility towards us. Eventually they calmed down enough to get in a talking mode, and my husband was able to show them the word of God and what it says about how much God really loves women and wants the best for them. Eventually they were baptised into Christ and are now living faithfully and gloriously for Him, having put away their old life. The former lesbians that I know have been very successful in having a stable home life and have been making a great difference in the community around them regarding such things as the dangers of immodesty, liquor, drugs, lewd materials on the newsstand, and many other things. They actually make a bigger statement with their lives than many people who have taken their Christian upbringing for granted. There is hope for everyone, that they can have a peaceful life. I can tell by your post that you are very stressed out about these issues. You can never have any peace within yourself as long as you are following that broad path.
Hell: I would like you to find the phrase "going to Hell" somewhere in this blog. I don't think I ever said that anyone was going to "hell in a handbasket," whatever that means.
Working Women: I explained this in a post called "Making Home A Place You Like to Be." The world has always had working women, throughout the ages, but they were not doing it to be equal with men or to dominate the work force, nor to make a statement or prove their rights. And, they had the sense not to put it first. Women worked just til they got a husband and then they put it behind them and never looked back. Marriage was a step up, a privileged and honored place in life. They would no more have left their children than a dog would have left her pups, or a cat her kittens or a hen her nest, in order to pursue a career.
Doilies and teacups: My doilies were hand stitched by women at home. Yes, they worked with their hands, as the Bible commands, and they left us beautiful things to treasure. Women at home have more time to make such things. The antique stores are full of such work, but it is fast disappearing, because the younger generation doesn't want to settle down and make these things. They will be in the high rise offices working with papers and telephones all day and have nothing to show for it but a paycheck, which will be spent before they even get it cashed. The kind of work that our grandmothers left for us is lasting and soothing and beautiful. The kind of work young women are forced into today, can be nerve wracking and disturbing. At home, a woman controls what kind of stresses she faces. She is in charge. She's the head of her company. It is her domain. She loves her family and she cares about what they eat and what they wear and how they spend their time.
Mental Disturbance: One of the cries of the Karl Marx/Communist/Socialist movement is that the family would be sick, outdated, archaic, and the women at home would be called mentally disturbed. Breaking down the home is the main goal of such people. It is marriage and home and family that they want to destroy. There is an attack on the home, politically and socially. Even churches do not always uphold the family, catering instead to those who cause disturbance or who are in rebellion.
Old Lady: I'm older than some people, in years, but then, so are you. Everyone is older than someone else. It is not my fault that I am getting older. It happens to EVERYONE, and one day you will be an old lady, but the question is, what kind of old lady are you conditioning yourself to be? Will you be a bitter, cranky, critical, worldly old lady, with a coctail in one hand and a cigarette in another, or will you be home making cookies for your grandchildren, and teaching them how to plant a garden and sew clothes?
Against Women: I'm not against any woman, or any group of women. I am against a false teaching called Feminism.
Becky says:
Jean,
Anyone can change. There is hope for everyone.
Lady Lydia says:
To continue with your points:
Playing Dress up: some of you girls look like something out of a circus, with the rags you wear. Maybe you are the ones playing dress up.
Having Tea parties: I never knew of tea parties destroying a family the way going to the bar or taking drugs or partying all night does.
Racism: I think everyone should be proud of their own race, and dress with dignity to honor the race God has given them. I don't think anyone should use race as an excuse to forget to get married, kill their own children, or abandon their families. I hope you share that view. Obviously, you are prejudiced against me, but I don't know if it is because of my Dutch ancestry or not.
Uneducated: Since you have no idea of the expanse of my education, you are making a judgement. It isn't an argument. It doesn't make any sense.
Dressing up and tea parties does not make you a Christian: You are right. Did I say that dressing up and having tea parties made one a Christian? The only thing that makes you a Christian is obedience to the gospel. By grace we are saved, through faith.
Guess we can see who your real God is: I can live without material things. I can be happy in a tent if that would mean I could be home with my family and look after them. Could you be happy with that, or is money all you ever think about?
beg your pardon: I meant no insult to the circus. Those costumes actually look better than what is offered by designers and manufacturers to young women today in the stores. In fairness, it is not all the fault of the young women.They don't know how to sew, and are held hostage by these choices of clothing, having no alternatives.
Kimber said:
Jean,
You are doing in your post just exactly what you are angrily accusing Lady Lydia of. You are stereotyping homemakers and assuming things about them which are just not true yet angrily saying Lydia somehow is belittling these working women, women getting education and stereotyping them.
Why are you so angry? Is it that your particular way of life is threatened somehow by stay at home wives and mothers?
I notice a great deal of passive aggressive language in your post. For example when you criticize Lydia and then in the same sentence call her "my dear." How condescending! Why can't you come to the table in discussion instead of with angry words and accusations and demeaning names? Hasn't your education taught you how to do that? If it hasn't, then it has not served you well at all so far.
You mentioned the magazines that Lydia links to and call them RAGS and then go on to say they employ women of all types. So do you hate these magazines because of that or do you hate them because they are liked by women such as Lydia and myself and other women here? You both criticize them and then point out how they offer opportunities to all sorts of women.
Why do you think that women like "us" hate women like you described? We don't hate these women at all. We do not dislike the PERSON but perhaps dislike that so many women are railroaded into lifestyle decisions by social pressures and are offering just one more possibility for them. The way we live allows us so much happiness and yet you persist in accusing of of hating other women when we offer this possibility to them. How is that wrong and why does it threaten you so much?
You imply that we do this whole home making thing because we just don't know there is something better out there than what we do at home. I was "out there" in the world. I went to college and pretty much found that it was indoctrinating socialist and feminist ideas. I bought into a lot of it because if my fellow students and I didn't, I saw that the professors were going to make it a difficult path or even impossible path to travel. It was easier to go the path of least resistance and I doted on that approval. But I felt empty about it all and unfulfilled as a person because it was all very controlling and artificial. I realized I didn't believe MOST of what they were teaching and I didn't respect that they were pushing conformity to a way of life that didn't suit me at all.
I went into the work world because my mother was not willing to let me be at home although my father was. She was a stay at home wife and mother who somehow bought into the popular rhetoric that what she did wasn't important, so she set her mind that I would NOT be like HER and I would do something of VALUE. Well it hurt me to think that she thought raising us kids was of no value :(
So I was out there in the work world. I was caring for elderly people that couldn't be in the homes of their families because their daughters were busy working. Later I took care of children in day care who had mother's who were working. These mothers were always struggling with their guilt at leaving their children and I can vouch that the children struggled with feeling separated and left behind by their mothers. And all my great education landed me in a poor paying job that is supposedly SO IMPORTANT to these other women...taking care of the elderly parents and the children. These other women willingly put their loved ones in the care of "professionals" who are so looked down on in the work world hierarchy that they receive pitiful pay and rarely any benefits. That will show how much this feminist society REALLY thinks of the elderly and children. If society REALLY valued children and the elderly, those who take care of them would be the BEST paid people in the world. It stung me a good bit to find that a valet who parked people's cars at a local restaurant received regularly tips larger than I'd make in an hour. People I knew would willingly fork out an exorbitant tip to the man taking 5 minutes total to park their car and retrieve it for them than they would pay a babysitter for an hour to care for their children. That valet made more working part time only a few hours a week than I could make in an entire week. Gee, I could have skipped the the years of upper level education and training to care for the elderly, infirm and children and just gone right to being a valet. I tried to tell myself that at least my job MATTERED, so it had value. You know what? It didn't really matter in the big picture. Any other person coming along the pike could do the job and I was quickly forgotten as soon as I left any position. What I did workwise didn't really stand in the passage of time. Being a mother will stand for ALL time and will have a greater reach because I will impact my children, their spouses, my grandchildren, by the way I parent and keep my home.
And the women struggled in their jobs to be able to pay for this benefit of farming out their parents and their children. And the guilt grew and the exhaustion grew from always running and being on the go. And I realized I was just one of them. That if I kept my job I'd be doing just the same. They lived rushed and frantic lives and drug their kids long for that ride. I wanted off that merry go round and soon.
It is heartbreaking when you see these people - left behind by the working daughters and mothers - begging pitifully to just GO HOME. The old people in the nursing home just want to go home...anyone's home, but especially the home of their children. And the babies, they want their own mothers to be the ones to lay them down to nap and to feed them and to comfort them when they are ill or troubled. They are sad because no matter how well schooled and educated the day care provider is, she isn't their mother. What is really sad is that these children miss even LOUSY mothers because there is within a child an ability to forgive tremendously and love in a huge way. Women would be better off having THAT kind of approval and benefit than the type where they get their accolades in a job position that could be easily done by anyone else and often times WILL be done by someone else at some point. No one is irreplaceable in the job field. And a woman won't be remembered as well by even a few people for her job accomplishments as she will be remembered by her children and in an ever expanding family circle, the nieces and nephews that also will find nurture from her and then later on her grandchildren will look to her as well.
I'm not saying a working woman can't be a good mother, but I am saying she isn't a PRESENT mother and really, that is what children want and need. And once a mother has BEEN that present mother, she will know that is what is best for herself as well. No more guilt for putting a child second to a job.
I don't regret the opportunity I had to be out at college or in the work world. What it did was make me aware that what I do at home IS the best I can give. At least I don't buy into the feminist rhetoric that says "Now we all have choices," but then undermines and belittles MY choice to be at home." THAT is hypocritical.
So my wish for you is that you go ahead and get all that education but do it with your eyes open. Be out there in that work world if that is your choice, but I hope for you that you will not be so bitter and angry about those who choose to not join you. Don't feel so threatened by a woman like me. I was once right where you are and now I am full circle. Back in the home and finally doing what I am CALLED to do and doing it with a grateful heart. My wish for you is to find the same peace and joy that I have, but I really don't think you will find it out in the work world or in the university. Your greatest joys and accomplishments and memories will lie within the home and family you can create.
I'd love to talk to you again in oh, 20 years and see what experience has taught you and where you are in your life.
I do wish you the best.
Kimberline.
Lady Lydia says:
"You are a Victorian-laced woman from a race that should be dead."
Hmmm.... If I had said that online, I suppose someone would threaten to sue me. Why is it these posts seem to border on accusing me of a crime? Maybe they are students, studying to be lawyers, and testing me as a case of some sort. I have no property, no money, and no inheritance. If you sue me, you will only get a collection of old fabric and all that scrapbook paper I am trying to use up. There is one old brown truck in the back pasture that does not work, loaded with any trasg made of metal. We were going to sell it all but the truck would not move. I don't know how much it is worth but if you sue me and you get the truck, you will do me a big, big favor. I've been trying to get that thing out the yard for 18 years.
Christian Feminist says:
It’s Christian Feminist again – hopefully for the last time. After reading almost all the articles and the links on your blog, I realize how lucky I am and how grateful I should be. I’m lucky that I live in a society where the overwhelming majority of women are encouraged to think for themselves, to have an education and a successful career. I am grateful to the millions of women worldwide who prove every day that women , just as well as men, can have a great job and a happy family. I’m grateful to those who fought so hard for women’s rights. I’m grateful to my great-grandparents, my grandparents and parents who studied hard and worked hard to have a better life than their own parents. A few generations back, my ancestors ( with the exception of my maternal grandfather’s family who belonged to the nobility) were poor, illiterate peasants who barely managed to survive. Their descendants are now highly educated people who have good jobs and high-ranking positions in politics, public administration, medicine, etc. This is the result of their efforts to be better than their parents, which you seem to condemn. There would be no progress if people didn’t try to have a better life than their parents. And by the way, perhaps if you had a job, you would have now money , property and you could leave an inheritance to your children.
I’m lucky to have a great job which challenges me every day. I have great colleagues who are also my friends. We work together and at the same time we manage to have fun together. I’m happy to go to work every day and I’m grateful that I’m surrounded by women, many in high-ranking positions, who are great at what they do, and by the way, they are more capable, more conscientious and much better than the men who work with them. I’m grateful that in my country more and more women have the top jobs in marketing, public administration, etc. By the way, they’re almost all married with children. I’m grateful also that most men don’t want an unpaid servant or a brainwashed woman for a wife. I’m grateful to my father, who has always pushed me to learn, to heve good grades, to go to the best university. He has always encouraged me to be very ambitious and to make the most of my abilities. He would NEVER dream of supporting me financially until I got married and he would be horrified if I became a housewife kept by her husband. He has always told me that financial independence, a high-ranking job and a good salary are the most important things. And by the way, he also encourages me to get married and have children soon. He sees no incompatibility in that and the biggest disappointment for him would be if I wasted my intelligence and talents and stopped working.
I’m grateful to my mom, who has always worked, at times even 2 jobs, making sure that we had everything we needed and wanted. I’m grateful to her that she preferred to have a job and work, instead of trying to make ends meet and living off my father’s paycheck, ‘being frugal” as you put it. She’s a great doctor who has helped a huge amount of people. She’s made a difference in so many lives , which she would never have done if she stayed at home.
Concerning home education, I will never believe that you or any other mother are equally proficient in all subjects. You may be well-read and intelligent but you cannot compare yourself with a teacher specially trained in one subject. For instance, in high-school I studied national and foreign literature, maths, geometry, algebra, chemistry, physics, philosophy, anatomy, zoology, grammar, history, geography and 2 foreign languages. If you’re able to teach your children of different ages and levels all these subjects, then you must be a genius. I’m sure you only read books and study theories which fit in with your vision. For instance, I think your children know about the Spanish Inquisition, but I bet they have never heared of the horrible persecutions suffered by Catholics in Protestant countries . You also claim that feminism =Marxism, but have you heard of Mary Wollstonecraft, Marie de Gournay or Christine de Pisan? They lived long before Marx and they were women’s rights defensors.. Read the Victorian women authors, especially Charlotte Bronte’s Shirley and you will see that everything was not perfect in women’s life in the Victorian era. Do you think they would have fought for their rights if everything was fine? You posted a quote of Queen Victoria on women’s rights. A while back, I suggested you read her biography to see how her actions clashed with her views and I posted her quotes on marriage and children. Of course you didn’t publish my comment, since they obviously didn’t fit your view.
The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world? Please!!!!! World leaders don’t make decisions based on their mothers’ influence. I’m sure few women teach their children that war is good, but how many leaders have chosen not to go to war? In fact, they seem to be eager for it. How many unjust wars, tragedies and genocides have been avoided or stopped? Very few. Do you know why? Because leaders make decisions based on politics, international relations and many other things, not on the education they received from their mothers. This goes for every level of decision-making. The only example I can think of is King Baudoin of Belgium, a devout Catholic, who abdicated for a day in order not to sign the law which allowed abortion. And he didn’t change anything, in the end.
You seem to think work is a prison but really, nobody keeps us prisoners. We have lunch breaks and if we have an important errand, we can go away from work a couple of hours or more. Guess what? Staying at home bores me to death. Tea parties and making silly objects out of leftovers are not the thing for me. I prefer reading a book or watching a movie, but still that couldn’t fill all my time. So no, dear “lady “Lydia, homemaking is just not my cup of tea.
Finally, as Christians you are bound to love your enemies, not to judge people. If feminism is you enemy, then as a true Christian you should love us and pray for us. Obviously, you prefer to judge everyone who doesn’t fit in with your views, which by the way are pretty narrow.
Lady Lydia says:
While I regard feminism more as a false teaching, rather than an "enemy," let this be a record that I do pray for you. Your judgementalism of the homemaker is very very apparent in this post, but being accused of being narrow is not an insult. Christians are supposed to be narrow, otherwise, they would be like everyone else, following the crowd, doing what the masses do and what the liberal media and colleges design.
As I have a lot of pressing responsibilities at the moment, I'll open this up to the other homemakers to leave their comments regarding your post.
Becky A says:
Dear "lady in Romania,"
You should not worry too much about a small amount of women in the population who stay home, or even about the ones who make the decision to commit their lives to being full time homemakers. They will never "rule the world" in the sense that you and others may fear. For 75 years or more the feminist doctrine has been dominant. Just walk down any neighborhood and count the places where people are home. You will find there is about 1 woman home in any village. It shows you that the feminist ideologoy won, and that there is no danger to you being controlled by the homemaker's beliefs.
There will always be a broad way, and feminists have taken it. It is the narrow way that few will follow. There are more of you than there are of us. The feminists do rock the cradle and in a sense rule the world. All you have to do is see what happens in the universities, the courts and the business places. Go down town and see how many men are running the businesses. Go to a bank. Go to a post office. Go to a department store. Mostly, there are women there. Go to a school: most teachers and principals are women. Go to a hospital and see the count: women dominate the workforce in many areas.
"The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world" does not necessarily mean a world leader or a president. It means the population that actually controls things. Look at the lawyers and the judges: they rule against the family in many cases. Look at the womens studies classes at the University: they rule the mindset of the next generation of girls going out in the world. Those girls will have careers, not long marriages, and not babies. So who rules the world? Truly, the hand that rocks the cradle. The ones rocking the cradle these days are the ones that teach something different than the Bible. Even a mother at home is influenced by the television and radio and music, that give her a different message. She can be home listening to the messages that tell her that she should rebel or get a job or do something else. The magazines and the friends she has, also are in favor of doing "something else." So, the hand that rocks the cradle is an "invisible hand" --because while it SEEMS like a young woman is raising her child, rocking her baby, etc., it is the teaching she gets from the hospital staff (which sometimes gives her bad advice), the radio therapist talk shows, the television programs like Oprah, etc. trying to "liberate" her from the task of being a full time mother, etc.
But don't worry, you aren't in danger of homemakers taking over. There will always be working women and there always has been. But in the past they didn't really want to work and didn't see it as the ultimate a woman could do. They would have much rather had the privilege and honor of being homemakers.
There are fewer women at home these days than in the 1900's, so it looks like society is on your side. Those who do stay home, are possibly leaving jobs open for the women who really need them, such as those whose husbands won't provide for them, those who don't have husbands, and those who don't want to be homemakers. Be thankful for homemakers because they do not fill these jobs, and they make the job market easier for the single women.
Vicki F says:
Re: Queen Victoria's diaries: if you will watch the film of Queen Elizabeth giving a tour of the property of the royal family you will see her show the diaries. She showed where one of Victoria's daughters had erased some entries and re-wrote them. I don't remember the reason she gave for doing this, but I do know that some of the diaries were altered by the daughter. We do have, however, Queen Victoria' words in some speeches and news pieces and letters that were not altered.
Mary says:
To Romanian lady:
You claim if a woman works she can buy property and leave an inheritance to her children. I know people who have inheritances like that, and it is a great blessing because the women do not have to go to work. They can stay home and look after the house, sew, raise their children, write, pursue their interests.
You also seem to claim that only if the WOMAN works, can she have property. That is not so. My husband is the bread-winner, the provider. I do not work except at home. I prefer the freedom to come and go as I wish and to look after our property while my husband is at work. Many women do have property and do not have to go get a job or pursue a career.
Also, my husband is a good provider and has no bad habits that would consume our income. It is a lot easier to prosper if the family does not spend money on entertainment or accumulating a lot of expensive things.
I can understand why some women would have to work, due to the way they conducted their lives. However, there are many women that don't have to work and are very fulfilled without career. They consider their homes their careers. It isn't a mindless job. It takes maturity and energy and a keen mind to mind the home.
Anonymous says:
Not all historians trust the reliability of the Queen's diaries, as they were erased and written over, by her daughter. The best quotes come from her speeches and letters, newspaper entries, etc.
Anonymous says:
During a live television broadcast the Queen was seen showing Neil Kinnock and other MPs around Buckingham Palace. Mr. Kinnock remarked that it was great to see Queen Victoria's diaries, "and in her own handwriting". The Queen then told the truth with millions watching, that Queen Victoria's diaries had all been destroyed because she had upset the British establishment. The diaries were all rewritten, taking out the most important bits where Queen Victoria recorded every sitting she had with the medium John Brown when she made contact with Prince Albert. Even those outside of the religion of Spiritualism are beginning to realise just how badly they are being deceived by a handful of tyrants, acting as a sort of thought police force, deciding what information is safe to allow through to the public.
http://jahtruth.net/truth.htm
Anonymous says:
Historic speeches of Queen Victoria
http://www.royal.gov.uk/files/pdf/victoria.pdf
Anonymous says:
http://www.vidicom-tv.com/victoria/index.htm
Anxious to protect her mother's reputation, she burned Victoria's diaries and rewrote them in her name.
Lady Lydia says:
Romanian Feminist:
Since you obviously talk a lot, you are certainly welcome to get your own blog and post your own opinion. Just click on the big "e" on the upper corner of a blog page and see where it says "get your own blog." That way, you don't have to make your blood pressure go up all the time by arguing. If you have your own blog, you can deal with people on your own terms. It is free, and you can then post all the beliefs you have, even if they are wrong.
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